Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Thoughts on Election night....

In my blog, I am going to do a daily report on Selah like I did tonight with Day 2....so tomorrow expect Day 3 Fish Oil study....I am doing that for us, so we can document each day and see her progress.  I may have to write a little bit more like tonight!!  I tend to like to stir things up some....  I used to blog for the heck of it and didn't  really think about anyone really responding... now I get a bit worried:)

Tonight on FB I wrote in response to a funny video that a friend shared about how desperate Christians can be about the elections :

 "I so agree that too many people think the USA is "God's country" I don't think any country is except for Israel and even with Israel, I do NOT believe we should just blindly support them!!!! Obviously if you read the OT and even the NT, you can see even the nation of Israel, being in disobedience and out of the will of God. I see somethings on here (talking about FB)  that really turns my stomach. I do NOT think a US flag should be inside a church..... I love the US BUT this world is so not my home..... But having said that, I do not like anything the Democratic party stands for. Even if I weren't a christian, I would vote Republican (unless it was for Rick Scott LOL)  Also I feel the world is on a one way road to the end of the world and no one can turn us back....but possibly a conservative president might slow the pace....."

So I do love American but like all the other countries of this world, all the countries of this world will bend their knee to God one day.  In heaven there won't be Americans, Russians, Chinese, Egyptians or any other country....there will be just citizens of heaven.....  One day America will be just a memory, along with all the other countries...  Sometimes I do think that some folks feel that the USA is somehow this "chosen country" that will last forever.   I do believe America has been blessed by God BECAUSE we as a nation honored God for so many years.  America does not honor God as a whole nation now....  This nation does not live by biblical values anymore.  Yes there are folks in this nation that chose to live for God, many people do but the majority of this country do not serve/honor God by their actions.  Every decade you can see the decline of this nation. 


I hope I can articulate this next thought of mine....sometimes I see things like recently on FB a Cross painted Red, White and Blue.  That really "ickes" me out.  Why?  The same way I feel when I see just an American flag in a church.  (it doesn't bother me IF I see a bunch of countries represented because THEN I feel that it was more of a statement that all countries bow to Him)  It seems to imply, to me, that to some, it signifies that the USA is somehow more "spiritual" than other countries or more loved by God.  Now, as I said, God has blessed us because as a nation, we used to honor Him as a nation.  We can not claim that anymore. 

For example, if I were in a church in China and there was a Chinese flag in it, that would make me uncomfortable. If I were in Syria and there was an Syrian flag in the church, that would make me feel that someone was making a political statement.   In Ukraine, we visited Russian Orthodox churches.  They were beautiful with all kinds of pictures in them.  Russian Orthodox Churches are very beautiful and they are very nationalistic.  As we were looking at the various paintings, I'd ask the guide who the pictures were of, which saint....  and time after time he would tell me that it was a former leader of Russia.  One picture looked like the Madonna and Jesus, however it was a picture of Nicholas and his mother.....do you see where I'm going? 

When the goverment and the church is hand in hand, you don't see a vibrant church! 

I totally believe in the separation of church and state.  Now I believe a pastor should encourage his congregation to vote biblical values, Pro-Life, & pro-marriage, but that is where it should stay.  I believe a pastor should teach his congregation the balance of what the bible teaches to take care of the poor, the orphans, the widows BUT the bible also says "if a man doesn't work, he shouldn't eat"  The bible as always teaches balance IF it is taken as a whole. 

So since I started writing...the election has been called.  I'm not happy, I disagree with Obama on just about every platform from social issues, to foreign policy and everything else.  I'm a conservative, so even if I was  not concerned about the Democrat's platform in a moral sense, I'd be concerned about the platform in every other way!  I'm not a Calvinist, I do not believe that everything that happens is "God's Will" I believe in the Free Will of Man~ meaning God allows man free will to chose not jsut their salvation but many things.    I believe that  there were times in biblical history when God seemed to step into the affairs of men and override their decisions.  Other times He seemed to allow the will of man to prevail.  There is a balance in there.  God certainly knew in his foreknowledge who was going to win the election but I don't believe He used "automatic writing" to cause anyone to vote for Obama... Sometimes God allowed judgement to come on Israel in the OT times because they disobeyed God.  He would let other armies come in and rule over them, or bad kings would rise up.  Sometimes there are natural consequences to decisions.  I believe America has decided for 4 more years of problems.   We are a society that is democratic or maybe more of a republic (since we have the house and senate)  but we are NOT a Theocracy (where God is the leader of this nation through a priest or a man acting as "God's voice"  I think people forget that at times.  So we are citizens of this nation have responsibilities!!!

If I were at home, I could reference some of our books as it is not easy to write about theology at midnight with no helps:)   I'm sure I'm not explaining myself very well with the tv on and being tired but I just had to write down my thoughts on this. 

I guess I think not so much that a candidate is "God's will" for our country as I think it is God's will for Christians to vote in a Bibically moral way and to live in that way also!   Maybe if we Christians took the same stand that Christians did for many many years on moral issues and did not stray from those convictions, then maybe this country would turn around.....but if you allow stuff in year after year and you don't fight and stand against the wrong, then the wrong will take over.  Our young folks won't know the difference between right and wrong....everything will just be a gray area for them.  There is a saying "what parents allow to moderation, their children will allow to excess"

So I am not thrilled with the election or where or country is headed....but this world is not my home, I am only passing through.....God knows the future and He will take care of His own!   So I will go to bed now after either annoying you, ticking you off, confusing you, or making you scratch your head trying to figure out what i was saying LOL





 
 

8 comments:

  1. Yvonne, what you wrote makes perfect sense. You are right. This world is not our home.

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  2. I'm not a Calvinist either, that "everything" is God's will. A little over half of the nation chose the same leadership for 4 more years and apparently had no conscience in doing so, was apparently blind to what this administration has been doing. It is up to us who are discerning of the times we are in, to still live for Christ, obey the law, and do God's will no matter how hard it becomes to stand against the flood-tide of immorality and rebellion that is coming. We must live our lives being faithful ambassadors of the Lord, reconciling the lost to Him, even with opposition from the government if need-be. God is not surprised at this election (which I think is a tragedy), even though this most likely was not His will but the choice of the majority, and He will give us grace to stand.

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  3. none of the above...lol. i agree with everything you wrote. i am very saddened by the election results, but this is not my home.

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  4. Agree, agree, agree! Thanks for sharing you perspective?

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  5. Thanks for reminding me of that. I was feeling so depressed after last night. I need to keep reminding myself of these truths!
    Still praying for little Selah and hoping for some wonderful improvement on the fish oil.

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  6. I imagine that during Noah's time God looked down on the people of His Earth and saw darkness. Nothing but sin and darkness - except for one bright, shining beacon of faith, the one family who stayed true. Noah's family. In our current world of sin and darkness I try to ensure that my family is a beacon of light unto the Lord.

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  7. I imagine that during Noah's time God looked down on the people of His Earth and saw darkness. Nothing but sin and darkness - except for one bright, shining beacon of faith, the one family who stayed true. Noah's family. In our current world of sin and darkness I try to ensure that my family is a beacon of light unto the Lord.

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  8. Even though I disagree in part with what you say, I respect it. You haven't ticked me off or confused me...."Getting to know you" through your blog I sortof knew how you would feel about the results. You are comfortably predictable ;) I like that in a friend!

    And in Selah's situation, our differences don't matter (at least to me) because I hope I am praying for what is best for Selah and that is God's will!

    Interesting thought about the flags....something I never thought about since I think every church I've ever been in has had an American flag in it. Thanks for opening my mind to a different viewpoint!!

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